4211. As regards the speech of spirits, they have their mental imagery grounded in the world of spirits in material and bodily things, and such imagery as is not material they nevertheless terminate and materialize, so that they may come to rest in them and may understand by means of them.
4211. As to what relates to the speech of spirits in the world of spirits, they have their ideas founded on material and corporeal things, and whatever ideas are not material [in the outset] they still make so by terminating them in material things and taking thence the vehicles of their thought.
4211. Quod loquelam spirituum attinet, in mundo spirituum habent ideas suas fundatas in materialibus et corporeis, et quae ideae non materiales sunt usque finiunt, et faciunt materialia, ut desinant in iis, et ut capiant ab iis. 293