1376、我常与灵人谈论他们对地方和距离所持的观念。我告诉他们说，它们不是真实的，只是看上去似乎是真实的。另一方面，空间和距离无非是他们的思维和情感的状态；这些状态以这种方式在灵人界呈现于视觉，但在天上的天使当中却不是这样，因为他们没有地方或时间的概念，只有状态的概念。然而，执守肉体和世俗观念的灵人却不明白这一点，他们以为真实情况和他们所看到的一模一样。这类灵人很难被引导相信他们并非活在肉身，他们也不愿相信他们是灵人。因此，他们几乎无法被引导相信有什么表象或幻觉，只想活在幻觉中，从而阻止自己去理解并承认尽可能远离幻觉的真理和良善。以下事实被一次又一次地证明给他们，即：地方的变化只是一种表象，也是一种感官幻觉。来世有两种地方的变化：一种是前面（1276节）所提到的，即：所有灵人和天使在大人里面始终保持在自己的位置，这是一种表象；另一种是灵人出现在一个地方，而事实上，他们根本不在那里，这是一种幻觉。
New Century Edition
Cooper(2008,2013)
[NCE]1376. Location and Place in the Other Life; Distance and Time There as Well (Continued)
I have often talked with spirits about the idea they have of place and distance. "They're not real," I tell them, "but only look as though they were. On the contrary, space and distance are just changes in the state of your thoughts and feelings, which make themselves visible this way in the world of spirits. There is no such appearance in heaven, among angels, since they have no concept of space and time, only of state."
Spirits who have physical and earthly ideas clinging to them do not grasp this, though. They believe that the situation really is exactly as they see it. It is almost impossible to lead spirits like this to believe anything but that they are still living in their bodies. They refuse to be convinced that they are spirits. So they are almost completely unwilling to hear that any kind of appearance or fallacy exists, preferring to live in their illusions. In this way they shut themselves off from understanding and acknowledging anything true or good that is too far removed from their misconceptions.
They have been shown over and over that a change of location is nothing more than a visible manifestation or else a trick of the senses. Changes of location in the other world are of two kinds, you see. One, described earlier [1276], involves the fact that all spirits and angels keep their same place in the universal human at all times, which is a visible manifestation. The other involves the fact that spirits can appear in a place when they are not really there, which is an illusion.
Potts(1905-1910) 1376
1376. CONTINUATION CONCERNING SITUATION AND PLACE,AND ALSO CONCERNING DISTANCE AND TIME, IN THE OTHER LIFE. I have frequently conversed with spirits concerning the idea of place and of distance among them-that it is not anything real, but appears as if it were, being nothing else than their states of thought and of affection, which are thus varied, and are in this manner presented to view in the world of spirits; but not so much so in heaven among the angels, since these are not in the idea of place and time, but in that of states. But the spirits to whom bodily and earthly ideas adhere, do not apprehend this, for they suppose that the case is exactly as they see it to be. Such spirits can hardly be brought to believe otherwise than that they are living in the body, and are not willing to be persuaded that they are spirits; and thus scarcely that there is any appearance, or any fallacy, in relation to the matter, for they desire to live in fallacies. Thus do they preclude themselves from the apprehension and acknowledgment of truths and goods, which are as far as possible from fallacies. It has been shown them many times that change of place is nothing but an appearance, and also a fallacy of sense. For there are two kinds of mutation of place in the other life; one is that which has been spoken of before, when it is said that all spirits and angels in the Grand Man constantly keep their own situation therein; which is an appearance. The other is that spirits appear in a place when in fact they are not there, which is a fallacy.
Elliott(1983-1999) 1376
1376. POSITION AND PLACE, AND ALSO DISTANCE AND TIME IN THE NEXT LIFE - continued
I have spoken frequently to spirits about the idea that place and distance with them are not anything real but only appear to be so, being nothing other than their states of thought and affection, which vary in the way place and distance do and which visually present themselves as such in the world of spirits. This is not so much the case with angels in heaven. They have no idea of place or of time, but only of states. Spirits however who cling to bodily and earthly ideas do not comprehend this because they imagine that everything really is exactly as they behold it. Such spirits can scarcely be led to believe otherwise than that they are living in the body, and refuse to be convinced that they are spirits. Thus they can scarcely be led to believe that any appearances or illusions are possible, desiring to live in illusions, and so they shut themselves off from grasping and acknowledging truths and goods, which are very far from being illusions. They have been shown time and again that change of place is merely an appearance, and also an illusion of the senses. In fact there are in the next life two kinds of changes of place. The first is that mentioned already, in which every spirit and angel in the Grand Man remains all the time in his own position; this is an appearance. The second is that in which spirits appear in a place when in fact they are not there at all; this is an illusion.
Latin(1748-1756) 1376
1376. Continuatio de Situ et Loco, ut et de Distantia et Tempore, in altera vitaLOCUTUS saepe cum spiritibus de idea loci et distantiae apud eos quod non sit reale quoddam sed apparens sicut foret, cum tamen non aliud sint quam status eorum cogitationis et affectionis qui sic variantur, ac sistuntur ita videndi in mundo spirituum; non ita in caelo apud angelos, cum non in idea loci et temporis sunt sed in idea statuum. Sed spiritus quibus corporeae et terrestres ideae adhaerent, id non capiunt, putantes ita prorsus esse sicut vident; tales vix possunt adduci aliter credere quam quod in corpore vivant, et quod spiritus sint, nolunt persuaderi, ita vix quod aliqua apparentia detur, nec quod aliqua fallacia, cupientes in fallaciis vivere; ita praecludunt sibi ad capiendum et agnoscendum vera et bona, quae longissime a fallaciis distant. Ostensum iis pluries quod mutatio loci non sit nisi apparentia, ut et fallacia sensus: sunt enim binae species mutationum loci in altera vita, una est de qua prius, quod omnes spiritus et angeli in Maximo Homine constanter situm suum teneant, quod est apparentia; altera est, quod spiritus appareant in uno loco cum tamen ibi non sunt, quod est fallacia.