4963. The one who appears in the second place [in this row] is a watchman from those who detach the Lord from the church, putting themselves in His place, or what is the same, who separate good and truth. Such spirits, through others, send those who sit there to the back, and they bring about the separation of the marriage [of the Lord with the Church]. This has also been shown to me many times, how it is done from the back.
4963. The spy who appears in the second place, is of those who disjoin the Lord from the Church, by putting themselves in His place; thus, which amounts to the same, who separate good and truth. Such characters, by means of others, send below, to the back of those who sit there, and cause marriage to be dissolved. This, [namely,] how it is done at the back, was also shown me to a considerable extent.
4963. Qui in secundo loco apparet est speculator ex illis, qui disjungunt Dominum ab Ecclesia, se loco Ipsius ponendo, ita quod idem, qui separant bonum et verum, tales per alios infra mittunt ad tergum illos qui ibi sedent, et faciunt ut separetur conjugium; hoc quoque mihi ostensum multoties, quomodo id factum a tergo.